I caught up with Kip Moore this past Friday before his performance at New York City’s 1st ever Farmborough Festival on Randall’s Island. He sat down with me and spoke about two of the tracks on his upcoming album, Wild Ones, to be released on August 21, 2015. Check out what to expect from the songs “Wild Ones” and “Comeback Kid”.
“I can’t wait for people to hear this. The intro is just super stripped and we geeked and geeked until we found the most killer drum tone for it. When people see what I’ve been up to behind the scenes with this song, people are going to flip. It’s just raw and has emotion behind it. I wrote it for my fans, but people are going to flip when hearing this and the rest of the album.”
Check out the intro and first verse of “Wild Ones” from the Farmborough Festival this past weekend:
“I have always felt like the underdog my entire life. I have always had to scrap and claw for every single inch. I think that has given me a chip on my shoulder for most of my life. When I have seen things handed to others, when I have had to work so hard for it. But for that, I have a different thankfulness than other people do and I have a sense of gratitude. But, I’ve always had a supreme confidence when other people have doubted me. I always think I am going to get where I am going to get. It’s like a thing of destiny, but you are the only one in on that thing so that no ones knows where you are going, but you. I think that song, man, it is just 100% me and its going to resonate with a lot of people not just here in America, but around the world. It’s for all the people who scrap and claw with every inch” – Kip Moore
A few months ago, I sat down with songwriter, Erik Dylan, who also discussed the song (see “Who’s Next: Erik Dylan”: https://millertimemusicspot.com/whos-next-erik-dylan/). He had the following to say about his relationship to “Comeback Kid”:
“I wrote a song called “Comeback Kid”. There are actually four writers that wrote it, Ross Copperman, Jeff Hyde, myself and Kip… It was written for Kip but each of the writers related to the song from a different place with what the song means… My wife worked a day job for seven years and as a songwriter there are times you question whether you are good enough or if it is all worth it. You need that someone there to support you. So the song in my mind was all about my wife because I was the Comeback Kid… Meanwhile, Kip is the Comeback Kid in a different way because he had his share of ups and downs and so many people told him he would not be a country music singer and look at him now.” – Erik Dylan
A Conversation with Erik Dylan at Cornman Music Studios in Nashville, TN
I had the unique opportunity of spending a full afternoon on Music Row with one of Nashville’s up and coming artists, Erik Dylan. Erik has a publishing deal with Cornman Music and has a self entitled EP available on iTunes. We spent the afternoon at both Cornman and Sony Nasvhille, as he gave me an up close and personal view into the daily life of a Nashville singer-songwriter. Make sure you all buy his EP https://itun.es/us/ERdv4 and check him out at www.erikdylan.com . I hope you all enjoy what he has to say as this interview is as real and true as it gets:
MTMS: Tell us about your journey from Kansas to Nashville…
Erik Dylan: I originally left Kansas to attend Middle Tennessee State University to work on a career in audio engineering, but found out I wasn’t really good at audio engineering. So then I decided to live in Nashville and make it my home. I had always written songs so it was just about trying to figure out how to make it in this industry.
MTMS: So it wasn’t that you moved here just to make songs, it started from the audio engineering aspect of things?
Erik Dylan: I had always wanted to make music. I have been writing songs since I was a little kid and played in bands growing up, but I wanted to be part of an industry. Actually, while I was at Middle Tennessee State, I tried getting into the songwriting program there but was denied by a certain professor. He actually told me I was not cut out to be a writer. Because of that I gave it up for a couple years after and it messed up my head until I realized I needed a second opinion.
MTMS: So once you moved to Nashville, what approach did you take?
Erik Dylan: I realized if I wanted to be a songwriter I had to be around other songwriters. So for seven years of trial and error, I learned about the industry and continued to try to be better. And seven years later, I got my first publishing deal.
MTMS: In those seven years, did you have a “big break moment”?
Erik Dylan: I am still looking for that, really. I am making a living off of it now and it is awesome, but we never know if it will always be this way. I worked full time for AT&T and played 200 open mics in 2011 while doing that. And Kip (Moore) saw me at one of those open mics, which is how I got my first meeting at Cornman and that is how I got my first publishing deal.
MTMS: That was my next question, the whole Kip Moore relationship that everyone is buzzing about. Can you talk about that?
Erik Dylan: He heard me at an open mic night from the speakers outside. He did not actually see me, he was walking by outside and heard my voice singing a song called “Marlena” that I wrote. He gave my wife his e-mail and told me to contact him because he had some people he wanted to introduce me to. So that was my break into music row.
MTMS: A lot of rumors have been swirling about Kip Moore’s new album and I know there is a song of yours that he did cut for it. Can you tell us anything about that?
Erik Dylan: I wrote a song called “Comeback Kid”. There are actually four writers that wrote it, Ross Copperman, Jeff Hyde, myself and Kip.
MTMS: The song was created in one day?
Erik Dylan: The bones of it had been there for awhile, but when you write a song you play with themes and titles. It was written for Kip but each of the writers related to the song from a different place with what the song means.
MTMS: What is your relationship to the song?
Erik Dylan: My wife worked a day job for seven years and as a songwriter there are times you question whether you are good enough or if it is all worth it. You need that someone there to support you. So the song in my mind was all about my wife because I was the Comeback Kid. Meanwhile, Kip is the Comeback Kid in a different way because he had his share of ups and downs and so many people told him he would not be a country music singer and look at him now.
MTMS: Besides the Kip cut, are there any other acts in Nashville that we will hear an Erik Dylan co-write on soon?
Erik Dylan: I do not know if they will make it onto albums, but I wrote a really great song with Eric Paslay that we hope will make it. Thompson Square also cut one of mine in November. I wrote Austin Webb’s song “Raise Em Up”. Chad Brownlee had a big hit in Canada with “Where The Party At” which I wrote and I actually released recently it as my first single.
MTMS: I saw the video for that recently, there were few fellow artists in it, no?
Erik Dylan: JT Hodges, Caitlyn Smith, Logan Mize, Jimmy Stanley, and Courtney Cole were all in it.
MTMS: Where was the video shot?
Erik Dylan: Tennessee Brew Works. Amazing beer, I freaking love that place. They donated the space for us and they may have even donated the beer for us that day too. Great guys run that place and I love it there.
MTMS: For those that do not know your music yet, what themes can the listener hear in Erik Dylan music?
Erik Dylan: I try to make it relatable to the listener. If I can get someone to relate the lyrics then I did my job. I think Springsteen did that to New Jersey and to the shore. I do not think I realized how much Springsteen really painted the picture of Jersey until I drove down there and paid the tolls and saw how life is there. I grew up in a farming community in Kansas and you will hear a lot of the blue collar and struggle in my music. Everyone likes to party and songs about girls, but if we just write songs about that we are not doing the Midwest or the US justice. I want people to feel things and that is what I love about “Comeback Kid” because people will relate to it for so many different reasons.
MTMS: One of the songs of yours that sticks out to me is “That Ain’t My Town”. Did you record that with the current state of country radio in mind?
Erik Dylan: I wrote that with Jeff Hyde and we were talking about where country is at right now. I love it where it is at in different ways, but I want more diversity in it. That is what I would want to change. I love party songs and girl songs, but country is so huge that we can have songs that talk about real things too. I wrote a song called “Colorblind” recently that is about real life issues happening around us. We need more songs about real issues.
MTMS: I am someone who cares most about the lyric and you seem to be someone who writes that way.
Erik Dylan: Well thank God for people like you! I do care a lot about that because I grew up listening to Steve Earle, Guy Clarke, Townes Van Zandt. It was all about telling a story in different ways. That is what the true masters do; it is about crafting a song and making art.
MTMS: Does attaining radio play mean a lot to you?
Erik Dylan: I feel blessed right now to be able to come into work and write songs. I want to make music organically and make songs that mean something. If I want to be a husband, a father, be on tour, and write songs all at the same time, the music needs to be about a representation of me and where I came from. If my music turns into radio play, that would be great, but I want people to parallel with my songs and be proud of it.
MTMS: Tell us about your publishing deal?
Erik Dylan: I am with Cornman Music which is owned by Brett James and is a co-venture with Warner-Chappell. They have been great. I came in as a songwriter who was writing more folk style songs and they have molded me into someone who can make modern country songs that can get airplay. The lyric was always there for me, but Brett just shoots straight and has helped me to a point where the lyrics and melodies combine. He has had 25 #1’s so he is an unbelievable mentor and person to be around. And here, as well as all of Nashville for that matter, I have noticed we celebrate each other’s hits and success. We are fans of each other and we take our turns.
MTMS: What does 2015 hold for Erik Dylan?
Erik Dylan: This month I have dedicated myself to writing and get in with all my ideas from the past few months. I will be writing songs with my friends here in Nashville. I am going out on tour with the Josh Abbott Band soon and there will be a lot more touring thereafter. I’m also writing a blue-collar type project called “Flattlands”. It is a record that reflects where I am from and I do not know if it will ever be heard on the radio, but it is not the reason I am writing it. We are getting some radio airplay with my new EP which was released. The coolest thing is my friends on Twitter and Facebook have grown so much. I think I started the year with maybe 100 followers. I have all these people that I recognize when I go to towns. I consider them my friends at this point. That is what is generating the most buzz because they want to hear what I am doing. If I can model my career after someone in current country it would be Eric Church. He started out grass roots and built fans that will follow him until he stops making music. I respect that and want to model my music the same way.
I want to thank Erik for spending some time with me and stay tuned to our site as we plan on keeping everyone up to date with his music and look forward to reviewing an Erik Dylan concert in 2015!